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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2017, 10:10:48 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, mjb8743. This user is located in Zone , South NJ, Garden State. This was originally posted on July 12, 2013.

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Jr. Member, Bobby. This user is located in Atlanta, GA Zone 7B. This was originally posted on July 11, 2013.

Now you people that have leaking EB can see why a lot of us have the water controlled by a timer,which will  only supply water to your AWS for a short period of time each day..Then if you have a problem with leaks(which you probably will) ,at least you won't run up a high water bill..AWS are just not that dependable..Many of us have found that out the hard way..

I beg to differ with your assessment. The AWS is very dependable... just ask the multitudes who have it successfully installed in their gardens. The comparatively few who do have problems are the ones you mostly hear about. Even then, many of the reported problems can be traced to improper installation, rough handling, and not researching the advice and hard-learned lessons from seasoned users.

There are three main areas that can cause trouble later:

-- The nipple on the sensor is fragile... trying to get the tubing fully seated on it can be a challenge. We've solved that by using boiling water to soften the tubing long enough to push it all the way onto the nipple. Once it cools, nothing is going to get that tubing off the sensor.

-- The filter that comes inserted in the regulator is totally useless. You must invest in a flushable, 150-200 mesh filter to trap all the minerals and gunk that exists in your water supply... believe me, it is there, and clogs will happen eventually without the filter.

-- The sensor reacts to the water level at the tube. A box that is not level can give a false result. If the water level is higher at the tube, that can cause the sensor to turn off... resulting in not enough water elsewhere in the reservoir. If the level is lower in the tube corner, that can cause the sensor to deliver more water, resulting in an overfill/overflowing/leaking condition.

The improper seating of the watering tube is critical here... it must be at an angle, in the corner, touching both sides of the box. There must be no obstruction (mix or roots) under the tube preventing full seating. Equally important, the sensor must be fully pushed onto the watering tube.

Other causes of leaks can be from roots wicking water at the overflow hole. That has nothing to do with the AWS, but the AWS often takes the blame.

If the tubing is properly seated on the fittings, there should be no leaking or disconnection. The pressure is very low, not enough to cause the tubing to blow off. If more security is needed, wire ties can be installed as extra insurance.

With proper installation and maintenance, the AWS will give years of convenience and freedom... being 'married to the farm' all summer is no fun.

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2017, 10:12:39 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, baileyj. This user is located in Zone 7A---Annapolis, Maryland. This was originally posted on July 12, 2013.

I had my AWS in a box for a few years, afraid to use it after all the comments. 
Finally last year I set it up on 12 of my tomato boxes and was thrilled !!!

I added another 15 boxes this year and have 17 more set ups to put in...
I do find it is not without problems at times but have been able to adjust the system to not leak. 
I am not good at leveling my boxes and like to move around my boxes as the season moves forward....not easy.

The amount of time the AWS has given me back is well worth the minor tweaking I have had to do to stop leaking boxes.

My tomatoes have thrived with the system...I thought I had done a great job of watering but the AWS does it much more consistently and has allowed us to go on vacation without concern.

This year with all the rain....I do have leaf issues and have the boxes too close together but the AWS---working well. 
I am struggling with adding a drip work system to my non-EB containers.....

As Movrshakr put it:
"there is no "right" answer that applies to every person's situation"

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2017, 10:14:53 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, OzzMan. This user is located in SE Penn, Zone 6B. This was originally posted on July 13, 2013.

When I first set up my AWS I had a problem with water leaking out the drain. It took a lot of time to get the EB level with everything from wooden shims from the hardware store to crushed bear cans. The leaking stopped or became very minimal.

Now for some reason I have not had a problem with leaking anymore and I haven't had to use shims. I don't even have to check that the EB are level.

Go figure!

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2017, 10:16:37 am »
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This is my first year with the AWS, but I found that a few seconds in front of a heat gun set on a very low temperature softened the AWS tubing up enough to make it *very* easy to push the EB 1/8" tubing over the sensor nipple.  It was also not made slippery due to not being dipped in boiling water - just another suggestion!

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-- The nipple on the sensor is fragile... trying to get the tubing fully seated on it can be a challenge. We've solved that by using boiling water to soften the tubing long enough to push it all the way onto the nipple. Once it cools, nothing is going to get that tubing off the sensor.

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2017, 10:19:01 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, cushman350. This user is located in Tomato Hell, Wichita Falls, TX Zone 7b. This was originally posted on July 23, 2013.

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, pcwhitehorn. This user is located in Zone 7A - Baltimore. This was originally posted on July 15, 2013.

This is my first year with the AWS, but I found that a few seconds in front of a heat gun set on a very low temperature softened the AWS tubing up enough to make it *very* easy to push the EB 1/8" tubing over the sensor nipple.  It was also not made slippery due to not being dipped in boiling water - just another suggestion!

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-- The nipple on the sensor is fragile... trying to get the tubing fully seated on it can be a challenge. We've solved that by using boiling water to soften the tubing long enough to push it all the way onto the nipple. Once it cools, nothing is going to get that tubing off the sensor.

Heating of the rubber in any safe way is the key.

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2018, 06:03:35 pm »
Hi everyone, new to the forum here but struggling with my AWS.
I bought my first 4 Root & Veg EB last year and set them up with a standard drip on an orbits timer because we travel a lot. This worked ok but depending on the temperature/water usage, I would overflow and waste a lot of water. This can be an issue in some years depending on water waste monitoring during droughts. I loved the results from my EB's and so this year I bought 4 standard EB's with a 4 port AWS since the Root & Veg system said it doesn't work with the AWS. I've setup the AWS and feel confident everything is connected well. There are no kinked hoses and the pressure regulator is higher than all the sensors. I have my AWS connected to my Orbits timer and allow it to fill for around 30 minutes twice a day. The issue I'm running into is the opposite of what others seem to have run into. 1 of my 4 sensors has significantly less water flow than the other 3. It barely drips the water out whereas the other 3 have better flow. Is there a way to adjust the flow out of the sensors?

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2018, 10:28:09 am »
Since it's NEW, I would contact customer support and tell them about the issue.  If it was older, I would recommend somethimg else.

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