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AWS Box Issue
« on: July 07, 2017, 09:48:57 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, chrissykr. This user is located in Chicago Burbs Zone 5a. This was originally posted on July 6, 2013.

I have a box and it leaks with the AWS. There is not a problem with the box itself as I have switched out the boxes. They all leak in this spot. I have checked with a level, tried shims, moved the box around in the same spot. I just don't know what to do. I tried a level on all four edges of the box and it says level.

I am leaving for two weeks and don't have much more time to mess with this. Any suggestions? I have tried boxes with castors, boxes with no castors. I am beyond frustrated. I have to have a box in this spot as I have no way of stopping the water flow and this box is in the middle of a row. We are talking about a lot of water dripping out of the box and it is not a problem with the head

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2017, 09:51:29 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, mjb8743. This user is located in Zone , South NJ, Garden State. This was originally posted on July 6, 2013.

To be sure it's not a sensor problem, have you tried the glass of water test? Halfway fill a glass of water and (remove the sensor from the box; it will be dripping...) slowly lower the cup into the glass. The water should stop. If it does, check that your tube is all the way down in the box and the sensor is fully seated on the tube. If it's raised even a little, that could make the sensor keep running. The tube shouldn't be sitting straight up... it needs to be angled into the box corner.

If the water does not stop when lowered into the glass, the diaphragm likely is not functioning as it should. It may be crusted with minerals, etc. You can try soaking the entire sensor in white vinegar for several hours or overnight. Swish it around really hard to loosen any debris.

If you're at all handy, you could loosen the 3 screws a little to give better access for the vinegar.

If you're really handy, you could carefully dismantle the sensor head, MAKING NOTE OF PLACEMENT AND ORIENTATION OF THE PARTS, and soak them. Using a soft toothbrush, clean the diaphragm and the orifices. Rinse the parts in clean water.

When reassembling, screw the 3 screws in a sequence until all are snug but not over-tightened... remember the sensor is plastic; you don't want to crack it from over-tightening.

I don't know how old your system is, or the water quality passing through the sensors. It is essential that you have a flushable 150-200 mesh filter in the system, and occasionally (annually??) clean the sensors as described above.

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2017, 09:52:13 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, chrissykr. This user is located in Chicago Burbs Zone 5a. This was originally posted on July 6, 2013.

I checked the sensor. I put it in the next box and no leaking:( I am at my wits end. My hubby is not keen on leaving the system on as last year I had a hose come off when we were gone and it ran for several days and  our water bill was over $400.

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2017, 09:54:23 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Jr. Member, Bobby. This user is located in Atlanta, GA Zone 7B. This was originally posted on July 6, 2013.

Many of us EB users have installed a Orbits battery operated timer,available at Home depot or Lowes for about $25.00, so that water is only available to my EB's automatic watering system for about 30 minutes each day(Tomatoes may require more time) ..Myself,I have mine installed right at the outside spigot,before the pressure regulator..This makes my "away times" feel more relaxed

Also, I have heard that small roots can clog up around the over flow port and cause a leak( I have never had this problem) ..Understand, these can be removed by running a wire into the over flow port and dragging them out

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2017, 09:55:22 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, chrissykr. This user is located in Chicago Burbs Zone 5a. This was originally posted on July 6, 2013.

The timer may be the way to go.

I just planted this box with beans two weeks ago so no roots yet. I tear my boxes down completely when resetting them so I know that is not the issue. I now have it sitting in the middle of my patio and no leaking so I guess it is where it wants to be.

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2017, 09:56:06 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Jr. Member, Bobby. This user is located in Atlanta, GA Zone 7B. This was originally posted on July 6, 2013.

If you do go with one of these Orbit Timers ,I have found that they are not waterproof(although they claim it is) and could have a short life,so someone on this forum suggested that you put it into a zip lock plastic bag.I didn't, so I had to replace mine..The one I am now using is a very simple one from ACE hardware#7198468..You may want to check that one out..

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2017, 09:57:34 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, pcwhitehorn. This user is located in Zone 7A - Baltimore. This was originally posted on July 8, 2013.

You might check around inside the overflow hole - many people have found that a leaking box will be due to tiny roots wicking the water out of the reservoir

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2017, 09:58:31 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, chrissykr. This user is located in Chicago Burbs Zone 5a. This was originally posted on July 8, 2013.

I got it fixed after sitting there an observing different adjustments with my trusty level and some shims. It only took three hours but so far so good.

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2017, 10:00:06 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, Donald1800. This user is located in Fontana, CA Zone 8. This was originally posted on July 8, 2013.

If the reservoir water level is so close to the overflow hole that a slight non-level condition causes water loss, then I would suggest that the sensor tube is not fully seated at the proper angle.  Confirm proper installation of the tube by moving the tube all the way to the corner while rotating, then while still rotating push the tube down as far as it will go.  You may also want to flush water down the tube from a hose while doing this to help flush out any potting mix holding the tube away from its seat.

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2017, 10:00:55 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, chrissykr. This user is located in Chicago Burbs Zone 5a. This was originally posted on July 8, 2013.

My box started leaking again. I did the water glass trick and it appeared to be working. So I pulled the tube and flushed it and it still was leaking. I pulled the sensor and put it in a different box and that box started leaking so I now know it is a bad sensor. I had an extra one and changed it out and now the box is fine. All these stupid hours spent on a four minute fix.

I called customer service but they were closed. So I will call again in the morning. This is a brand new sensor so I hope they don't give me a hassle.

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2017, 10:03:23 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, movrshakr. This user is located in Zone 10a - near Cape Canaveral. This was originally posted on July 9, 2013.

I saw another post saying they were short of AWS's and parts right now, but I am sure they will be cooperative--just may not be able to right away.

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2017, 10:05:08 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Jr. Member, gkcin. This was originally posted on July 9, 2013.

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, movrshakr. This user is located in Zone 10a - near Cape Canaveral. This was originally posted on July 9, 2013.

I saw another post saying they were short of AWS's and parts right now, but I am sure they will be cooperative--just may not be able to right away.


I was the one who found out that they don't have have the AWS kits but they do have have the AWS parts or spare parts.

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2017, 10:06:34 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, chrissykr. This user is located in Chicago Burbs Zone 5a. This was originally posted on July 9, 2013.

I have to say....I am so over the AWS. Last year I hooked up my eight boxes and it worked flawlessly other than the tubing coming undone which may have been user error when setting it up.


This year is a whole 'nother story. I added 12 more and it has been nothing but a headache. First I hooked up the new boxes and one of the sensors has a bad nipple and water spraying everywhere. EB sent a new one out right away got that problem fixed. Then I have a leaking box which took several days to resolve. Then I just got that fixed on Monday or Tuesday? Last night I came home at 11:30 pm and my patio was soaking wet. Another box was leaking. Here I am in my Jammie's, it is almost midnight tipping a box over and running my fingers in the overflow hole. Okay, it must have been a root, no more leaking. I came home from work today and yet another box is leaking. Tip it over run my fingers around no roots to be found. I have no idea what the problem is. I re-adjusted everything so we will see. I leave for two weeks on Saturday and I don't need these headaches.

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2017, 10:07:30 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Jr. Member, Bobby. This user is located in Atlanta, GA Zone 7B. This was originally posted on July 11, 2013.

Now you people that have leaking EB can see why a lot of us have the water controlled by a timer,which will  only supply water to your AWS for a short period of time each day..Then if you have a problem with leaks(which you probably will) ,at least you won't run up a high water bill..AWS are just not that dependable..Many of us have found that out the hard way..

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Re: AWS Box Issue
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2017, 10:09:07 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, movrshakr. This user is located in Zone 10a - near Cape Canaveral. This was originally posted on July 12, 2013.

As with nearly everything in life, it is a choice.

The AWS provides lots of advantages and convenience.  And yes, it brings new potential problems, and it has a cost.  Each person must weigh those against each other and decide if the net is positive FOR THEM, or negative. 

And that answer can be different for each person.  One may value the convenience very highly; another may ENJOY going to their garden area and tending (including watering) their boxes multiple times per day.  Or may be highly concerned about a leak appearing and wasting water.  Those two people would probably come to different conclusions about whether an AWS was "worth it."  Fine.

There is no "right" answer that applies to every person's situation.