Author Topic: Fish Emulsion  (Read 48176 times)

EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Fish Emulsion
« on: July 05, 2017, 09:25:13 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, Thomcatbob. This user is located in Bonita Springs, FL - Zone 10a. This was originally posted on February 24,
2013.


Has anyone used this as a "snack" for tomatoes or any other plants?  I planted two cherry tomatoes (my first EB experience) three weeks ago and am amazed at how much they've grown so far.  Just planted green pole beans this past week.  Just wondering if any supplementation is necessary.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2017, 09:56:30 am by EarthBoxDD »

EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Re: Fish Emulsion
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2017, 09:26:38 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, Sun City Linda. This user is located in SoCal Inland 9A. This was originally posted on February 24, 2013.

I used different liquid supplements on my tomatoes heavily last year when my granular organic fert turned out to be useless.  I switched from heavy nitrogen to ripening blends as the season progressed.  Ideally, with good fert, the only supplementation most of us use regularly use is Calcium Nitrate.

EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Re: Fish Emulsion
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2017, 09:29:05 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Jr. Member, Sh0e. This user is located in Zone 24, Southern CA. This was originally posted on March 2, 2013.

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, Sun City Linda. This user is located in SoCal Inland 9A. This was originally posted on February 24, 2013.

Ideally, with good fert, the only supplementation most of us use regularly use is Calcium Nitrate.

Is Calcium Nitrate lime?
I'm also thinking about what I need to do to improve my yield, especially tomatoes. I've done EB's three years now, and every year I have a BER problem. I'm afraid that I will just quit soon on this product (which is sad because I really do want to believe in it). But for all my efforts with tomatoes, I've nary had one good crop (i.e. one box) that produced anything of a bounty.

EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Re: Fish Emulsion
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2017, 09:30:03 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, Sun City Linda. This user is located in SoCal Inland 9A. This was originally posted on March 2, 2013.


Calcium Nitrate is a non organic powder which is cheap and water soluble.  Many of us use it to help prevent BER, but it is not a lime product.    I use a teaspoon every Sunday down the watering tube.  If you cant find it at a local nursery, check out Kelp4less (think thats it) on line.

EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Re: Fish Emulsion
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2017, 09:31:49 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, mjb8743. This user is located in Zone 7, South NJ, Garden State. This was originally posted on March 2, 2013.

Calcium nitrate (CANO3) is a combination of calcium and nitrogen. It's widely used in agriculture as a side dressing/supplemental fertilizer. For the organic purists, this product is not organic.

Mickie

EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Re: Fish Emulsion
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2017, 09:34:14 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted on Hero Member, potatohead. This user is located in 9A Desert Southwest. This was originally posted on March 2, 2013.

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Jr. Member, Sh0e. This user is located in Zone 24, Southern CA. This was originally posted on March 2, 2013.

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, Sun City Linda. This user is located in SoCal Inland 9A. This was originally posted on February 24, 2013.

Ideally, with good fert, the only supplementation most of us use regularly use is Calcium Nitrate.

Is Calcium Nitrate lime?
I'm also thinking about what I need to do to improve my yield, especially tomatoes. I've done EB's three years now, and every year I have a BER problem. I'm afraid that I will just quit soon on this product (which is sad because I really do want to believe in it). But for all my efforts with tomatoes, I've nary had one good crop (i.e. one box) that produced anything of a bounty.

Have you tried cherry tomatoes? I was getting lots of BER with medium to large tomatoes. I tried some different cherry varieties and have not seen it since (even with new mix and dolomite). In my climate, that seems to be the only ones that give me consistent and large yields.

EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Re: Fish Emulsion
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2017, 09:36:25 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, mjb8743. This user is located in Zone 7, South NJ, Garden State. This was originally posted on March 2, 2013.
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Jr. Member, Sh0e. This user is located in Zone 24, Southern CA. This was originally posted on March 2, 2013.
I'm also thinking about what I need to do to improve my yield, especially tomatoes. I've done EB's three years now, and every year I have a BER problem. I'm afraid that I will just quit soon on this product (which is sad because I really do want to believe in it). But for all my efforts with tomatoes, I've nary had one good crop (i.e. one box) that produced anything of a bounty.

Do you keep the same mix from year to year? New, first year mix is more prone to BER. Also, do you add the required 2 cups of dolomite to the mix each year? If so, after 3 years, BER should be a minor occurence, if at all.

Mickie

EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Re: Fish Emulsion
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2017, 09:38:44 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, maryeann. This user is located in Port Orange, FL - Zone 9. This was originally posted on March 25, 2013.

Do you add dolomite each year for all vegetables? They told me at the EarthBox store in Ellenton to just use dolomite with tomatoes.

EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Re: Fish Emulsion
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2017, 09:40:42 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted Full Member, LaurainFL. This user is located in Zone 8b/9a, NW Florida. This was originally posted on March 25, 2013.


I use dolomite with peppers and eggplants also.

EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Re: Fish Emulsion
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2017, 09:41:26 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, mjb8743. This user is located in Zone 7, South NJ, Garden State. This was originally posted on March 25, 2013.

Dolomite should be added in the 2 cup measure for seeded/fruiting crops. Things that don't yield fruits such as leafy greens or cabbage-type varieties, etc don't need the full amount. Just add 1 cup to help offset the acidity of the mix.

Mickie

EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Re: Fish Emulsion
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2017, 09:42:31 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, maryeann. This user is located in Port Orange, FL - Zone 9. This was originally posted on March 26, 2013.

So you DO add dolomite to everything - just in different amounts. Is there anyplace to buy dolomite other than at Earth Box where it is quite pricy?


EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Re: Fish Emulsion
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2017, 09:43:40 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted on Hero Member, potatohead. This user is located in 9A Desert Southwest. This was originally posted on March 28, 2013.

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, maryeann. This user is located in Port Orange, FL - Zone 9. This was originally posted on March 26, 2013.

So you DO add dolomite to everything - just in different amounts. Is there anyplace to buy dolomite other than at Earth Box where it is quite pricy?

Dolomite should not be added to everything, for example, it should not be added to blueberries or strawberries.

I have seen dolomite at Home Depot (Espoma Garden Lime). I have bought it at a local landscaping supply company. You will have to do some research in your area and not everyone will recognize the name dolomite (they may call it garden lime). You have to check the label to make sure it has the correct amounts of calcium and magnesium.

EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Re: Fish Emulsion
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2017, 09:45:44 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, Wildcat. This user is located in Western KY, Zone 6. This was originally posted on March 31, 2013.
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, maryeann. This user is located in Port Orange, FL - Zone 9. This was originally posted on March 26, 2013.

So you DO add dolomite to everything - just in different amounts. Is there anyplace to buy dolomite other than at Earth Box where it is quite pricy?



Lowes sells it in 40 lb bags. Make sure it's the power one and not the pellets.

I had trouble with BER the first couple years then read on here about buying the dolomite in bunk. They told me to add 3 cups to each box at the end of the growing season when I pulled the plants and then to add 2 cups at the start of planting. So far along with the "snack" each week I was good to go as far as BER. I'm starting some new boxes this year so I bet the new ones will have the BER.

EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Re: Fish Emulsion
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2017, 09:47:34 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, baileyj. This user is located in Zone 7A--- Annapolis, Maryland. This was originally posted on March 31,
 2013.


 If you search here for Dolomite you will find extensive discussions about what to use, what % of Calcium/Magnesium etc...

This year I am using the pelletized version from Lowes in my boxes that have been in use for several years...I believe I switched after a comment from GardenDoc...
I do use the powdered dolomite lime from Lowes in newer boxes but the pelletized is easier.

Also...Blueberries do not need the lime...I add Hollytone as my fertilizer strip in them and leave out the lime....
Judi

EarthBoxAdmin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1368
  • Lititz, PA Zone 6A
Re: Fish Emulsion
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2017, 09:52:13 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, gardendoc. This user is located in Ocean Springs, MS Zone 9a. This was originally posted on March 31, 2013.

Here is the Lowes product I have used for years.