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How to Plant Garlic
« on: June 19, 2017, 08:43:26 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Active Member, Pnewport. This user is located in 6b southwestern Virginia (south of Wytheville). This was originally posted on October 5, 2014.

I've read a lot on the forum about how many of you plant garlic but now I can't find any of it!

I purchased hard neck (?) garlic from Burpee's and I can use two Earthboxes now.

We are going to be gone from before Thanksgiving until around the first of April and I hate to put too
much on the folks that are going to be staying here.

I understand that I don't need to add any dolomite or fertilizer to boxes that were producing this year.  Should I
dig out the fertilizer strip, or leave it alone and avoid planting garlic next to it, or mix it in?

Then, I plan to put a shower cap, black side up, on it and I guess the water reservoir should remain full until 1) we leave, or 2) it starts freezing?

I can leave the boxes on my deck but it would have to be on east facing side as the rest is covered.  Or, I can put them on the ground on the south side of my barn.

Will it be best to just leave them alone after all of the above unless it gets real warm, real early, and then I would assume the reservoir should be filled but, hmmm, then it probably won't wick--or will it?  I can ask my friends to peek under the plastic in early spring.

I would really appreciate some confirmation of what I plan to do or any corrections or suggestions as I have never tried garlic before and it cost me way too much from Burpee's.  Zone 6, but I think that will come up in my signature Smiley

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Pam

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Re: How to Plant Garlic
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2017, 08:45:34 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, baileyj. This user is located in Zone 7A --- Annapolis, Maryland. This was originally posted on October 5, 2014.

Pnewport,)
Below I copied a post I made a few years ago when I first started growing garlic.  I have grown it every year, except this past year (we were getting ready to move and I had so much left from the year before)

I no longer use a stocking for fertilizer, but do put in dolomite and fertilizer...I know John had said it is not needed but I am never sure which boxes I will be using so they are prepped already with the dolomite.  You can see the configurations I use for shallots and Garlic--they grow great even if spaced close.

They really need nothing once the cold has set in, but the boxes should not be full of water.  Mine grew one year all winter (it was an odd winter, very warm with virtually no snow) but once December set in I stop watering and resume in late February, or when they start growing again. 

I had always thought I would need to cover them with a cold frame or plastic when the snow set in during the hard winters but they survived even through the snow....I was not sure they would grow if covered in snow but I have had at least 2-3 years where the boxes were covered in 6-12 inches of snow for a few weeks....

I also write the type of garlic in silver on the black cover for each if I am growing a few types so I know which ones I want to grow again....You think you will remember but it never seems to work for me....

It is colder where you are in zone 6 but your plan sounds like it should work.  Are you planning on keeping the cover intact or cut with holes for each garlic bulb?  I would cut the  holes...
If it gets warm and they start growing then they will need to fill the reservoir.....and yes it will wick...

Garlic, shallots and leeks have been so rewarding for me to grow and I will continue to grow them each year.  They keep well and are so much better than store bought.  I love the varieties of Garlic you cannot get anywhere but a specialty store...unless you pay a fortune !

Good luck, I don't think you can miss.  Let us know how it goes !
Judi


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Sorry I am so out of the loop on all this...
Mickie, I did use the cover, mixed the standard Dolomite and the stocking with fertilizer in the center.  I then planted 8 on each side of the fertilizer strip in a bit of a zig-zag pattern so they could all have a bit more space without disrupting the fert. strip.
I watered up to about December, then tipped the water out so the reservoir was not full and left them. 
I was planning to cover them with a plastic cover prior to the snow, but never got to it..
In about March they started to grow again, I took up watering again and were putting out seeds at the top in June.  I then stopped watering again and late June pulled them.  I did not do the braiding thing, but may this year.  I left them to dry then into the fridge.

This year I have planted late (October 18)  I planted 5 boxes, one elephant, 2 early white, 1 Russian Red, and 1 Music.  They are all putting out green tops, although the early white are way ahead.  I am watering them, but they are not taking up water.
I planted them the same as above with the covers and length wise stocking of fert.
The Elephant Garlic I did in a 5 pattern of config. like Broccoli.     
                                           
                                                     XXX  F  XXX  F   XXX                             X     X     X     X     
Here is my config for the shallots:    XXX  F  XXX  F   XXX           Garlic:            X     X     X     X
                                                     XXX  F  XXX  F   XXX                             FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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Today I am putting in Shallots and I think I will try to put 27 in each box with 2 width wise channels of fert.  I found a posting here by John...not sure how it worked, but I am up for it.....
I'll let you know how it goes.  I am keeping all the boxes together so I can cover if I need to, but I am not sure I will need to. It is so sunny on that side and it may not need the cover to protect them. Undecided
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Judi
 
 
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Hi Judi,
Good luck. Keep us posted.  Many of our customers are interested in growing garlic....As a general rule, if your EarthBox has been used for a few growing seasons, there is no need to add the dolomite and fertilizer (at least for 1 growing season of garlic).
If you fall into this catagory, by all means plant 3 rows (24)....It works.

Here in zone 5, I always plant my cloves on November 1st.  This year, my EarthBox garlic is outdoors:
     1. Facing south, protected from the North-West winds
     2. Removed 1/2 water from the reservoir
     3. Removed casters and placed on asphalt
     4. Installed 2 mulch covers before planting

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Re: How to Plant Garlic
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2017, 08:46:29 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Active Member, Pnewport. This user is located in 6b southwestern Virginia (south of Wytheville). This was originally posted on October 6, 2014.

Thanks, Judi.  I remember seeing your planting configurations now. I guess my only question is should I leave what is left of the fertilizer strip from this summer or just mix it into the top few inches?

I would love to leave the boxes uncovered but, with being gone, I'm afraid they would flood and all my garlic would float away.  I guess I'll poke lots of little holes and ask my friends to check them late February.  March can be pretty brutal here. We are in what they call mountains in the east, 2500', so we get some weather and last winter was pretty severe they tell me. We were in AZ selling a house and living in our RV so missed it all.

Right now, I'm trying to protect my late tomatoes from the cold and frost. I have about a dozen good-sized with a few starting to ripen. I don't know, with the cold setting in so early this year, if the smaller ones will continue to grow.

Pam

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Re: How to Plant Garlic
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2017, 08:47:54 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, linear249. This user is located in Zone 8b. This was originally posted on October 6, 2014.

Pnewport

Try topping off the plant.  Cutting the top off of the plant so that the plant can use the energy to ripening the tomatoes instead of feeding the leaves, etc.

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Re: How to Plant Garlic
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2017, 08:48:58 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Active Member, Pnewport. This user is located in 6b southwestern Virginia (south of Wytheville). This was originally posted on October 6, 2014.

Really?  The poor things are still blooming but I don't have any hope for them setting more tomatoes with the cold we're getting.

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Pam

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Re: How to Plant Garlic
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2017, 08:50:37 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, mjb8743. This user is located in Zone 7, South NJ, Garden State. This was originally posted on October 6, 2014.

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Pnewport

Try topping off the plant.  Cutting the top off of the plant so that the plant can use the energy to ripening the tomatoes instead of feeding the leaves, etc.

Aline

I read (Gdoc??) that topping the plant will only cause it to try to replace the lost foliage, thus defeating the whole purpose of topping.

Mickie

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Re: How to Plant Garlic
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2017, 08:51:30 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Active Member, Pnewport. This user is located in 6b southwestern Virginia (south of Wytheville). This was originally posted on October 6, 2014.

I will do nothing for the moment.

Thanks.  I'm going to pick two tomorrow and if the weather gets really bad again, I will pick them all and they can ripen inside!

Pam

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Re: How to Plant Garlic
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2017, 08:53:08 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, gardendoc. This user is located in Ocean Springs, MS Zone 9a. This was originally posted on October 20, 2014.

When you "top" indeterminate tomatoes they still want to grow vegetatively. In fact "topping" will actually encourage more lateral vegetative growth and become a greater sink for photosynthates at the expense of the not ripening fruit. that's why I only grow determinate tomatoes in the fall.

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Re: How to Plant Garlic
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2017, 08:54:06 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Active Member, Pnewport. This user is located in 6b southwestern Virginia (south of Wytheville). This was originally posted on October 20, 2014.

Thanks.  I will have to look up which are indeterminate and which are determinate and good for our location (zone 6).  I may have to order plants.

Still don't have my garlic planted.  It has been so wet here and we had frost last night.

Pam

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Re: How to Plant Garlic
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2017, 08:54:42 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Active Member, Pnewport. This user is located in 6b southwestern Virginia (south of Wytheville). This was originally posted on November 8, 2014.

Well, between being gone, and early bad weather, I still have not planted my garlic. We have had several hard frosts and 4-6" of snow. It is Nov 8, the boxes are not frozen but I dumped the remaining water.

Can I still plant my garlic or wait until I get back in April?

Pam
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Re: How to Plant Garlic
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2017, 08:55:44 am »
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I would plant today but not wait any longer.

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Re: How to Plant Garlic
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2017, 08:56:23 am »
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Thanks. I did. It was that or eat it!

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Re: How to Plant Garlic
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2017, 08:57:13 am »
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Well, back to October....We were gone for five months.  The people that were going to live here pretty much didn't.  My garlic was on the deck with shower curtains, no holes (I was going to have them checked and then cut).  I dug down in one box and didn't find anything--there was a lot of rain and the reservoirs were likely full.  Also got down to minus 7 at one point.  Abnormally cold.  I'm guessing my cloves just dissolved, or something.  They have been uncovered for two weeks, since I got back home, but we've had more rain.

I am getting ready to prepare my boxes.  Guess I should dig down again, carefully, at one end and see if anything is there that I missed.

Pam

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Re: How to Plant Garlic
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2017, 08:58:04 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, baileyj. This user is located in Zone 7A --- Annapolis, Maryland. This was originally posted on May 3, 2015.

Pnewport,
This year, for the first time I lost all the garlic I planted in October.  Not 1 clove has started to grow and as you said "they dissolved" in the mix.

I was very surprised since I have always had such good luck and followed the same process so I need to try to find out what happened.  It was snowy and very cold so perhaps they just froze but it seems to me other years it was pretty cold and everyone grew.... Undecided

Disappointed but I am going to plant a few cloves now in an extra box and hope for the best...not sure what I will revise for October planting at this point.
Thanks,
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Re: How to Plant Garlic
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2017, 08:59:20 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Jr. Member, BDumler2. This user is located in Meridian, ID Zone 6 or 7. This was originally posted on May 3, 2015.

None of my garlic came up and don't know why.  The garlic I planted in my square ft. garden came up.  This is my first attempt at planting garlic so I don't have a clue as to what I did wrong.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Both were planted at the same time and all directions were followed as to the Earthbox.  The box was covered.  Thanking everyone in advance.