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Re: Staking Kits, Ease of Use?
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2017, 09:37:08 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Guest, alicemagooey. This was originally posted on April 29, 2008.

I hope this is not off the topic, but I used plain old square tomato cages which I purchased at a garden supply place.. They fit perfectly inside the earthbox- two square cages per EB.

With two tomato plants or two cucumber plants, they worked perfectly..
The plants grew, and branched out, and I had to ( yes, you need to keep an eye on how they grow and take the time to push their horizontal (lateral?) branches through the large holes in the tomato cages and let them rest there.. this helps support the plant as it grows.

wish I still had my photos..but I did this some five years ago.
just got two new EBs this year and going to do some EB gardening again.

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Re: Staking Kits, Ease of Use?
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2017, 09:38:43 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Jr. Member, Joia. This user is located in Las Vegas, NV - Zone 9. This was originally posted on April 29, 2008.

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Guest, alicemagooey. This was originally posted on April 29, 2008.

I hope this is not off the topic, but I used plain old square tomato cages which I purchased at a garden supply place.. They fit perfectly inside the earthbox- two square cages per EB.

With two tomato plants or two cucumber plants, they worked perfectly..
The plants grew, and branched out, and I had to ( yes, you need to keep an eye on how they grow and take the time to push their horizontal (lateral?) branches through the large holes in the tomato cages and let them rest there.. this helps support the plant as it grows.

Actually, this is what Im doing.  (http://joia.org/gallery/eb for pics of my set up)  Im gonna end up running some more twine this week, as I still havent managed to get my Ultomato thingies set up.  But for now, both of my plants (that are GOING CRAZY) seem to be just fine in the cage Ive set up.

That said, Im pondering moving my EB to a permanent location on the other side of the patio where it will be sitting on (hard packed) dirt so that I could drive something stake-like into the ground for support if it comes to that.

I'm just so leery of getting the EB staking kit, as I've not heard glowing reviews about it.

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Re: Staking Kits, Ease of Use?
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2017, 09:40:05 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Guest, alicemagooey. This was originally posted on April 29, 2008.

SARAH.. I LOVED YOUR PHOTO GALLERY.

EB should use that to supplement their instructions...
Beautifully done..Kudos to you.

Yes, the cages you have look like the ones I had.. (got to get some more ).

one year , the tomatoes and cucumbers grew so tall that i had to put two cages ..one on top of the other ( four cages for each earthbox).. I had to use a ladder to harvest.

made my own soil mix and used compost and organic fertilizer amendments of my own.
did the whole thing as an experiment.
oh I still wish I had my photos still.

but YOUR photos are terrific.

thanks again..from me and i hope lots of others.
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Re: Staking Kits, Ease of Use?
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2017, 09:43:16 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Active Member, BookWoman. This was originally posted on May 21, 2008.

Another Newbie Question......

Anyone else find it difficult to tie the new staking system netting & have it be taut?  Mine seems droopy.  I know I must be missing something simple.

Thanks!


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« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2017, 09:44:37 am »
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SARAH,
I TOO LOVED EVERY DETAIL WITH PICTURES AT THE GALLERY LINK YOU SHARED.  THANKS SO MUCH.  MAKES LIFE EASIER.  THANKS. I LOVE MY ULTOMATO STAKING KIT SOLD AT HOME DEPOT.  I GOT TONS.

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Re: Staking Kits, Ease of Use?
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2017, 09:47:30 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, sasquatch. This was originally posted on June 10, 2008.

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Another Newbie Question......

Anyone else find it difficult to tie the new staking system netting & have it be taut?  Mine seems droopy.  I know I must be missing something simple.

Thanks!

I'm having the same issue. It's pretty tough to make the provided netting taught, especially since the tie-offs only have one end of line at each junction.

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Re: Staking Kits, Ease of Use?
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2017, 09:48:58 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, Donald1800. This user is located in Fontana, CA Zone 8. This was originally posted on June 10, 2008.

I don't use the short ties off of the netting. I use Hemp Twine for everything needing tying in the garden.  I first start at the top by wrapping around the netting string Ting off of the edge string(s) and tie a half square knot, then tied around the aluminum cross pieces.

Continue to and down the sides, alternating left and right sides until finished. I have had no trouble getting a tight netting installation.

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Re: Staking Kits, Ease of Use?
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2017, 09:50:24 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Jr. Member, suzn. This user is located in Zone 9. This was originally posted on June 10, 2008.

Sarah, WOW I only WISH I had seen your AWESOME photo gallery B-4 I filled my very FIRST EB last week.  How did you go about creating this gallery?  I would LOVE to do it to document the growth of my concrete garden and perhaps help others as much as has your great photo gallery, I'm sure.   Also, off the subject if you checked my profile I am an artist who needs a similar format for the people who ask to see my artwork on-line.  However, did you DO THAT?  Feel free to e-mail me.  WONDERFUL!  Just TERRIFIC!!  Does the forum provide the tools for this or did you create it on your own?

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Re: Staking Kits, Ease of Use?
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2017, 09:55:24 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, sasquatch. This was originally posted on June 10, 2008.

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I don't use the short ties off of the netting. I use Hemp Twine for everything needing tying in the garden.  I first start at the top by wrapping around the netting string Ting off of the edge string(s) and tie a half square knot, then tied around the aluminum cross pieces.

Continue to and down the sides, alternating left and right sides until finished. I have had no trouble getting a tight netting installation.

Donald1800

Donald,

Thanks for the suggestion. That seems a good way of tightening up the netting and is surely easier than using those short ties.

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Re: Staking Kits, Ease of Use?
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2017, 09:56:28 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, carolg. This user is located in Denver, CO Zone 5. This was originally posted on June 14, 2008.

I love Ultomato Staking Kits.  This will be my second season using them.
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Re: Staking Kits, Ease of Use?
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2017, 10:01:03 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Active Member, BookWoman. This was originally posted on June 17, 2008.

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Another Newbie Question......

Anyone else find it difficult to tie the new staking system netting & have it be taut?  Mine seems droopy.  I know I must be missing something simple.

Thanks!

Eureka!  I figured it out.  By laying the assembled poles on the ground, & stretching out the netting the long way, I found that the short way was the width of my poles.  I tied the top corners first, then inserted the poles into the brackets on my EB & tied the bottom corners to the brackets.  Then I tied all the single strands, except the bottom ones.  It was tight as a fiddle. 

Only one problem, my 5 week old San Marzano plants were already past the middle bar on June 8th.  I ordered 3 poles & 2 T-connectors from EB & put them at the bottom of my staking system.  Then I was able to tie all the bottom strings.  Awesome!  Here's hoping the weather in central MA continues to be nice, but I'm definitely pinching off any growth that goes past the "new" top so I don't need a cherry picker for harvesting.
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Re: Staking Kits, Ease of Use?
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2017, 10:05:57 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, bdobs. This user is located in SF Bay Area 8b. This was originally posted on June 19, 2008.

The netting CAN be found at HD.
Its at the two in my area.  Just inside the garden center.

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Re: Staking Kits, Ease of Use?
« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2017, 10:06:59 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Guest, Greg Draiss. This was originally posted on July 8, 2008.

The staking is not easy to use at all. While assembling goes easy the netting is a pain to tie up and the instructions poor. Also I have found the netting begins too high above the box making manual staking needed. Should be designed like a normal trellis where the cross bars are at ground level.
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« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2017, 10:08:08 am »
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???I am totally confused. I have tomato plants that are about 2 high. My EB staking system is already assembled. PLEASE--could someone explain IN DETAIL (for dummies, like me) how to tie the plants. Thanks for any help.

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Re: Staking Kits, Ease of Use?
« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2017, 10:10:34 am »
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Well, I hope I can help. You can use pieces of Velcro, pantyhose, thin plastic tape (like people use for land survey marks) or other commercial tomato bondage product found at a garden center or catalog......to name a few. You don't want to use wire, that can cut into the plant and you might risk damage using twine or fishing line. You might be able to weave some shoots in and out of the netting as they grow, don't force them if they are too stiff. You can tie the stems to any of the aluminum bars. I used knee high and thigh high pantyhose bought at the dollar store, cheaper than the Wally. I used a figure 8 fashion with the hose if possible around the plant stem and the stakes in order to cushion the stem from friction. You can not rely solely on the netting to support heavy stems. I added stakes to my boxes at planting time and that is my main support in use with the box staking system. Others have used their own external staking systems instead of the flimsy EB stake design. Others swear by the Ultimato staking system to help with support. Some have completely surrounded their boxes with a wire cage they made themselves that keeps critters out and helps provide support.  If you are growing an indeterminate tomato plant, you'll have to do something more. Adding another staking system on top of a current one is unsafe unless you fasten it to a wall, fence or a low roof. An indeterminate plant will keep growing until frost, disease  critters or humans kill it. A determinate plant will only grow to a certain height. And another thing, don't force a stem too hard to a position it might not be able to get to, it could all too easily snap and break. I wash my pantyhose knee highs after each season to prevent the spread of any diseases from the last season.