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Re: Graft Tomatoes called Might Mato Question
« Reply #60 on: July 19, 2017, 09:25:33 am »
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Re: Graft Tomatoes called Might Mato Question
« Reply #61 on: July 19, 2017, 09:26:09 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, BK. This user is located in North Houston - Zone 9. This was originally posted on May 16, 2013.

Am I one of the first here to grow these grafted tomatoes? 

I have a question. I just picked my first ripe Black Krim.


I also grew several of them last year from regular nursery purchased plants.

We've all discussed the growth of the plants, but this first tomato was considerably larger  than my previous ones.

I  see  numerous ones  on this plant that are still green as can be,but are already as big as my largest last year and don't seem to be finished growing.
 I found this on a website, then I just paused this email and decided to weigh just so we'd all know.

"Black Krim tomato originated from the Isle of Krim in the black sea off the peninsula of Russia. It is a heirloom /heritage tomato . Mid season , medium sized beefsteak tomato usually the tomato have an average weight of 8oz.


Mine was a hair over 14 ounces.


 An aberration, or to be expected?

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Re: Graft Tomatoes called Might Mato Question
« Reply #62 on: July 19, 2017, 09:27:00 am »
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"Average of 8 oz."

Unfortunately, that does not tell you anything about the NORMAL variations in size (the standard deviation or variance of the distribution of sizes.

Still, that seems to be pretty far out on whatever the distribution curve looks like.  IOW, improbable.

But grafted is a whole different environment--I doubt the 8oz average was determined on grafted tomatoes, and especially grafted tomatoes in EarthBoxes!

In short, I don't know.

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Re: Graft Tomatoes called Might Mato Question
« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2017, 09:27:38 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, BK. This user is located in North Houston - Zone 9. This was originally posted on May 16, 2013.

Just to make myself clear, my previous Krims were not grafted.

And I know under ideal conditions anything can get bigger.  Including regular plants.

Just wondering if 14oz . is  out of the ordinary for a  non-grafted,  or not unusual .

In either case, there's  going to be one  heck of a BLT in front of me within the hour.

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Re: Graft Tomatoes called Might Mato Question
« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2017, 09:28:16 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, BK. This user is located in North Houston - Zone 9. This was originally posted on May 16, 2013.

I forgot, but just to be clear.. I  Googled Black Krims to find out their average size on a normal non grafted plant.

It said 8 oz. I just got curious.  I'm thinking that was about right  for the ones I grew last year.

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Re: Graft Tomatoes called Might Mato Question
« Reply #65 on: July 19, 2017, 09:30:04 am »
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I forgot, but just to be clear.. I  Googled Black Krims to find out their average size on a normal non grafted plant.

It said 8 oz. I just got curious.  I'm thinking that was about right  for the ones I grew last year.

Giving an average weight is deceptive... suppose you had one that weighed 2 oz and another that weighed 14 oz. The average weight would be 8 oz.
so, you can see that the average really doesn't tell you what to expect.

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Re: Graft Tomatoes called Might Mato Question
« Reply #66 on: July 19, 2017, 09:30:55 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, BK. This user is located in North Houston - Zone 9. This was originally posted on May 19, 2013.

Thanks guys. I was just curious about what to expect.

 I'm now picking about 4 ripe per day.  The plants are absolutely loaded.

Most are in the average size range but a few still on the vine are huge. There's one I found that I can't wait to weigh.

It dwarfs that 14 ouncer I picked the other day. 

It is so good to have real tomatoes again.   I hate that tasteless supermarket junk.

I had a laugh a few minutes ago.   The neighbor behind me was fixing a fence board that fell.
I saw him out the window.

He had a clear view of the Earthboxes and was just standing there staring, mouth agape.

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Re: Graft Tomatoes called Might Mato Question
« Reply #67 on: July 19, 2017, 09:32:23 am »
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BK,

Please post some pictures or video of your grafted tomato.  I just planted mine last week and can hardly wait.  It's so exciting to know yours are doing so well.

Thanks!!

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Re: Graft Tomatoes called Might Mato Question
« Reply #68 on: July 19, 2017, 09:33:33 am »
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I'm going to the garden center tomorrow to pick mine up.

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Re: Graft Tomatoes called Might Mato Question
« Reply #69 on: July 19, 2017, 09:34:34 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, linear249. This was originally posted on May 20, 2013.

I picked up my grafted tomato today.  The selection wasn't great (end of season - half price), so I got a Big Rainbow Heirloom.  1st time trying these, so I hope the're good.

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Re: Graft Tomatoes called Might Mato Question
« Reply #70 on: July 19, 2017, 09:35:33 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, BK. This user is located in North Houston - Zone 9. This was originally posted on May 20, 2013.

Jenny,
No pics, sorry. No camera and I'm the only person I know who refuses to buy a cell phone.

Here's what I can say for sure at this moment. I grew regular Mortgage Lifters and Black Krims for the two previous years when I got my first Earthboxes. Let's not count the first year as I was a beginner.  So I'm comparing these grafted to last year.


I'd have to say there are easily twice if not 3 times the number of fruit on these plants.  Closer too 3X is my guess.

They are definitely larger tomatoes.   I have no idea how much of that is the grafted plants,weather,blind luck or anything else.
I happened to buy these 2 varieties  as they were the only ones the nursery had.

 Good in a way as now I can compare.

They only thing that worries me is rather funny.  Some of these toms are in clumps of 4-5 and they are getting huge.  I keep thinking some of these stems are going to break at any minute  Shocked

I'm just reporting my experiences as I'm in a warmer climate  and I know many of you are anxiously waiting to try their own.I paid 10 bucks each for these two plants.  Best 20 bucks I ever spent.

I hope all of you are as happy with yours as I am.

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Re: Graft Tomatoes called Might Mato Question
« Reply #71 on: July 19, 2017, 09:36:28 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, mjb8743. This user is located in Zone 7, South NJ, Garden State. This was originally posted on May 20, 2013.

I'd be interested in reports of disease tolerances as the seasons progress. We all are familiar with the typical diseases that attack in our own gardens... it would be nice to compare with the grafted plants.

Same goes as far as pest problems. Some years ago, Organic Gardening had articles stating that healthy plants aren't bothered as much by pests. Evidently, distressed plants emit signals that the bugs can sense, thus are attracted to those plants. So, it would be interesting if you would make note of any occurrence or lack of pest activity.

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Re: Graft Tomatoes called Might Mato Question
« Reply #72 on: July 19, 2017, 09:37:38 am »
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, BK. This user is located in North Houston - Zone 9. This was originally posted on May 26, 2013.

Update from Houston.  My 2 grafted Mighty Matoes did finally stop growing in height but continue to spread.

 I finally had to use Ultimato supports all around the pea fences..

It looks pretty  little goofy (and it's annoying my work-adverse  weedeater crazy lawn guy) but whatever works.  They are producing lots of beautiful tomatoes. 


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Re: Graft Tomatoes called Might Mato Question
« Reply #73 on: July 19, 2017, 09:39:23 am »
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Here's my grafted tomato observation so far: I'm growing 10 different varieties of regular tomatoes (20 plants total) that I started from seed back on February. I ordered 3 varieties of grafted tomato from Burpee (6 plants total). When I received the grafted tomatoes, they were small and scraggly. I had my doubts that these stragglers could catch up to my other plants that were already at least 3 feet tall with blossoms. It's now about 4 weeks later, and even though the grafted tomatoes still aren't as big as my other plants, they seem to be putting out more blossoms and are setting small fruit already, my other non-grafted plants (except for the Sungold cherry plants) don't have any fruit set yet.