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Title: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 08:56:47 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, PaulB. The user is located in Southeast New Mexico, zone 7. This was originally posted on April 16, 2010.

We have some very creative gardeners here at the EB forum.  Many have found solutions to the towering abilities of growth that an earthbox can provide.  Others are searching for these solutions.  While this thread is in no way intended to take sales away from EB of their trellis systems, it is intended to serve as a clearinghouse for the various trellis ideas that people have come up with.  With that idea in mind, I invite all of you to post your trellis ideas, plans, and photos here.  Also feel free to post links to older threads that have trellis photos in them.

I will start off this thread by posting the tomato tunnel trellis I just built.  It is made out of a single piece of 8 foot by 20 foot concrete welded remesh wire, with 6X6 inch openings.  It is held in place by 4 steel fence posts hammered into the ground.  Please note that the nylon string connecting the wire to the posts is just a temporary measure, until I can find the roll of plastic coated steel wire I have hidden away in my garage.

First of all, a view from an angle. This trellis was built specifically for a variety of indeterminate tomatoes.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 09:03:56 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, PaulB. The user is located in Southeast New Mexico, zone 7. This was originally posted on April 16, 2010.

A view from one end.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 09:05:27 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, PaulB. The user is located in Southeast New Mexico, zone 7. This was originally posted on April 16, 2010.
A side view.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 09:08:29 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Guest, cushman350. This was originally posted on April 16, 2010.

I like it. Wont you need to "train" your vines to follow the arbor as they get out of reach. They send their shoots vertical, do you own a cherry picker?  Wink

Will that wire hold up that ladder I see agin dat tin storage building? Got scaffolding?

The tree has got to go Paul.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 09:22:31 am
Disclaimer:This post ws originally posted by Hero Member, Deb. The user is located in The Pacific NorthWET- Sunset - W. Climate Zone 6. This was originally posted on April 16, 2010.
When you said hoop tunnel, I assumed youd put the plants inside and it would be for shade in your climate.  I just keep learning to not jump to conclusions.  ;>

So where do you find those 8x20 panels?  (she asks, although shes having trouble getting 3x16 hog panels home)   ;>

This looks good, but I think Id stretch it out a bit so I could reach the top.  I hate to pick from ladders!

Deb
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 09:24:29 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, PaulB. The user is located in Southeast New Mexico, zone 7. This was originally posted on April 16, 2010.

I will indeed be training the plants to lie on top of the trellis, using the green plastic ties.  I do have a 6 foot ladder that I can use, but as I stand over 6 feet tall myself, I can almost reach the top of the arch.  The tree doesnt overhang the trellis.  I can prune it, but as I am renting the property, I cant remove it.  It is actually toward the northeast of the boxes, so it wont be  much of a problem.

I purchased the remesh screen at one of my local lumber and building supply companies, not one of the big box places like Home Depot.  It is for reinforcing concrete, so you might also check with a concrete supplier.

The whole idea of this design is to let the tomatoes hang down so that they are easier to pick.  A step ladder should be fine for harvesting, and the other ladder should work for training the plants.

Next year, I intend on making this into a rainbow of tomatoes, planting different colors of heirloom cherry tomatoes, one color after another.  This design can easily be added to in 8 increments by adding another panel.

Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 09:30:06 am
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Hero Member, LavendulaFleur. The user is located in So Cal (The Valley) Zone 10. This is originally posted on April 16, 2010.

That is a really fabulous looking trellis!

Could you come over here and build one for me?

Looking forward to seeing what it looks like when your maters are going gung ho.
 
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 09:31:44 am
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Guest, cushman350. This was originally posted on April 16, 2010.

The only reason I mention the ladder is my experience when my toms out grew their cage, about six foot long, so they grew up, fell over, and then I had 4 feet of laid over tomato that then started sending shoots vertical for the whole length.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 09:33:11 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Guest, acanfield. This was originally posted on April 16, 2010.

Fantastic!  I cant wait to see the plants growing along the arch and the tomatoes hanging down.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 09:35:19 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, PaulB. The user is located in Southeast New Mexico, zone 7. This was originally posted on April 16, 2010.

Lets get more pictures posted here.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 09:49:29 am
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Hero Member, Tania. This user was originally located ~__~ So Cal / Zone 10. This was originally posted on April 17, 2010.

These are the supports I made for my Heritage Rasps and a Blackberry I had growing in EBs.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 09:55:05 am
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Hero Member, Tania. This user was originally located ~__~ So Cal / Zone 10. This was originally posted on April 17, 2010.


These are the supports I made for my Heritage Rasps and a Blackberry I had growing in EBs. Continued.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 10:11:43 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Global Moderator, Hero Member, movrshakr on Forum Driveway farm 2009. This user is located in Zone 10a- near Cape Canaveral. This was originally posted on April 17, 2010.

OK, my son and I redid the trellis frame (see pics below).

Below are the measurements we used; any not listed here are as in the original diagram.  As you can see, we changed to three cross supports on the bottom.  I did this because I wanted the box sitting entirely within the perimeter  of the trellis bottom.  Actually, it has to in the left right direction in order for the verticals to be outside the box rim. We also made it so the box sits entirely on the pipe without resting on any part of a tee body--so the box will not "rock."

(spacing does not let everything line up exactly right--must be proportional font)

lateral segments (8 required) - 6 3/8" ea. tee----tee----tee----tee----tee
cross segments (3) - 12 3/8" ea.                |        |        |       |         |
interior end pieces (4) - 5 5/8" ea.           tee       |        |        |      tee
stick-out end pieces (4) - 6" ea.                 |        |        |       |         |
                                                          tee----tee----tee----tee----tee

oh shoot, I didnt write down the length of the top cross bar, but you can easily measure it to be the width that would match distance between the two tees into which the verticals fit.  Length is not critical on the stick-out end stabilization pieces.  Id suggest doing them last and use any left-over PVC from previous cuts.

PVC was inserted fully into the tees and elbows (top); a rubber mallet was used to tap them to fully seat them.

I made my verticals 82" tall but you can choose whatever is best for the plants you have.

I put 1/2 " EMT (electrical metal tube??) inside the 3/4" PVC verticals and the top cross bar.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 10:14:57 am
Disclaimer this post was originally posted by Guest, cushman305. This was originally posted on April 17, 2010.

Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Hero Member, Tania. This user was originally located ~__~ So Cal / Zone 10.

These are the supports I made for my Heritage Rasps and a Blackberry I had growing in EBs.

I notice the uprights are inside the EB, a good wind will take these over. Id use the available ground to anchor the trellises.

Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 10:16:42 am
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Hero Member, Tania. This user was originally located ~__~ So Cal / Zone 10. This was originally posted on April 17, 2010.

Disclaimer this post was originally posted by Guest, cushman305.

Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Hero Member, Tania. This user was originally located ~__~ So Cal / Zone 10.

These are the supports I made for my Heritage Rasps and a Blackberry I had growing in EBs.

I notice the uprights are inside the EB, a good wind will take these over. Id use the available ground to anchor the trellises.



Fortunately in my area, high winds are not an issue.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 10:23:04 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, Jester. This user is located in Virginia Beach, Virginia - Zone 7b. This was originally posted on April 19, 2010.

Heres a picture of my Trellis after two were built...

I have a framing for a third that I didn't end up meeting last summer, so I'm going to finish building that one this week..

Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 10:25:09 am
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Guest, cushman350. This was originally posted April 19, 2010.

Hows the wood holding up? Did you treat it?

Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 10:27:21 am
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Hero Member, Tania. This user was originally located ~__~ So Cal / Zone 10. This was originally posted on April 19, 2010.

Very cool!  But just one question!... How you gonna reach your veggies all the way up there?  Are you very tall? lol!
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 10:30:16 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, Jester. This user is located in Virginia Beach, Virginia - Zone 7b. This was originally posted on April 19, 2010.

The wood has held up pretty well since last summer.  We have even had a lot of snow this winter...  I did not treat the wood with anything.  There was debate on what to use and with the wood being cheap I fugues if it last a few years then Im ok with that.  Hahahaa

Im about 6-0" and have no problems harvesting... Hahahaa... My neighbors did pull me aside and ask what I was doing in the backyard because the tops of the trellis are visible from the street... Hahaaa

2nd year and still obsessed with Earthboxes...
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 10:31:31 am
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Hero Member, Tania. This user was originally located ~__~ So Cal / Zone 10. This was originally posted on April 20, 2010.

lol! Thats great! So clever!  Please do post a picture of your trellises once they are covered up! 

I need to come up with something to hold up my zuccnini plants, instead of staking them up. Id rather use a rope or twine to hold them up, tying them to a stake can be a challenge.


Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 10:33:33 am
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Guest, cushman350. This was originally posted on April 20, 2010.

Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Hero Member, Tania. This user was originally located ~__~ So Cal / Zone 10.

lol! Thats great! So clever!  Please do post a picture of your trellises once they are covered up! 

I need to come up with something to hold up my zuccnini plants, instead of staking them up. Id rather use a rope or twine to hold them up, tying them to a stake can be a challenge.




Sounds like you need a pvc structure over your boxes to tie to and do exactly that.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 10:56:47 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, PaulB. The user is located in Southeast New Mexico, zone 7. This was originally posted on May 6, 2010.

Here is my latest trellis.  This is made out of pine that has been waterproofed with Thompsons Waterseal.  The support is made out of a piece of hog wire that I found here on the property. 

Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 11:10:57 am
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Full Member, johnthomasc3. This user is located in Morganton, NC Zone 7-8. This was originally posted on May 13, 2010.

I have another thread that I posted this previously, but I thought I would add to the collection.  Many great ideals here.  This is indestructible, except for a tornado.  It is hard to see the cutouts for getting the tomatoes, but they are there.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 11:17:24 am
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Full Member, croven. This user is located in Dallas 8a 16 boxes AWS. This was originally posted on May 16, 2010.

here is the design i made for my tomatoes. I don't have much of a backyard and I am tiring to not to kill the grass so i found some cheap lawn more wheels and made it mobile.  I was going to paint all the PVC but it was taking too long and the plant was growing to fast. I barley stuffed it in there as it was. I am currently looking for a good "pole holder" to attach to the cart on ether side so i can anchor it with some re-bar.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 11:28:08 am
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Full Member, jim1016. This user is located in Houston, Texas, Zone 9. This was originally posted on May 24, 2010.

  Here is a low-key solution to a problem I encountered. I need to add 18" or so to an existing EB staking system. I just happened to have all the material (I collect stuff) on hand to do this. When Hurricane (fill in name of hurricane here) hits this will be in Arkansas but until then, its doing an OK job.
     I sawed a kerf in 1/2" PVC pipe about 2-1/2" long and clamped it with a 1" SS hose clamp.
Jim
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 12:02:04 pm
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Jr. Member, country79. This was originally posted on May 26, 2010.

Well always trying to be different, and so far not to bad.   I took these A frames and made them Vs .

what do you all think?
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 12:04:23 pm
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Jr. Member, country79. This was originally posted on May 26, 2010.

and now the pic
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 12:07:05 pm
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Hero Member, Deb. This user is located in The Pacific NorthWET - Sunset - W. Climate Zone 6. This was originally posted on May 26, 2010.

That makes a whole lotta sense to me.

Deb
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 12:11:56 pm
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Full Member, johnthomasc3. This user is located in Chapin, SC - Zone 7. This was originally posted on May 27, 2010.

Updated Photos.

The reason I like my cage system is:
1) Once made, it can be used for years without any additional netting, or support.  There is no wood to weather, rot, break and no hardware that will fail.

2) Face it, tomatoes get huge and try to bush out everywhere. This puts a great deal of weight to the outside perimeter of the EB.  You can see from the photos that my plants are over halfway up the cage and will continue almost to the top. Once installed I do not have to do any other maintenance to the plant to prevent damage.

3) Once a plant gets a certain size, the box should not be moved due to the fact the branches will break with the weight of tomatoes.  I let some of the branches grow outside the cage. 


Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 12:12:57 pm
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Full Member, johnthomasc3. This user is located in Chapin, SC - Zone 7. This was originally posted on May 27, 2010.

Updated Photos.

The reason I like my cage system is:
1) Once made, it can be used for years without any additional netting, or support.  There is no wood to weather, rot, break and no hardware that will fail.

2) Face it, tomatoes get huge and try to bush out everywhere. This puts a great deal of weight to the outside perimeter of the EB.  You can see from the photos that my plants are over halfway up the cage and will continue almost to the top. Once installed I do not have to do any other maintenance to the plant to prevent damage.

3) Once a plant gets a certain size, the box should not be moved due to the fact the branches will break with the weight of tomatoes.  I let some of the branches grow outside the cage. 

Continued
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 12:16:10 pm
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Full Member, johnthomasc3. This user is located in Chapin, SC - Zone 7. This was originally posted on May 27, 2010.

Bonus picture-  My kitty TJ guarding the crop!
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on May 30, 2017, 12:22:28 pm
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Newbie, matthew393. This was originally poste on June 4, 2010.

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, Jester. This user is located in Virginia Beach, Virginia - Zone 7b.

Heres a picture of my Trellis after two were built...

I have a framing for a third that I didn't end up meeting last summer, so I'm going to finish building that one this week..

Jester,
What are you using for netting?
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 09:12:34 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, PaulB. The user is located in Southeast New Mexico, zone 7. This was originally posted on June 26, 2010.

I am growing 4 different kinds of melons this year.  Since I didnt want to let them lie on the ground, I decided to build special trellises for them.  They are made out of wood, and are screwed together for ease of future disassembly.  They are triangular in one direction, and rectangular in another.  They have removable shelves, designed on the idea of a pergola.  The shelves can be put in whatever position that is necessary, with the idea of either letting the fruit grow while lying on the shelves, or hanging inside of net bags suspended from the shelves.  Hooks will be installed, if the net bags become necessary.

There is also a trellis net in the middle of each of the trellises, for the vines to climb on.  The shelves start about 8 inches from the top of the EB, and are 12 inches apart after that.  More shelves will be added as necessary.  The trellises are just under 8 feet tall, and are the width of the EB.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 09:15:24 am
Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Newbie, Hiker. This was originally posted on December 9, 2010.

A question for PaulB regarding msg dated June 26, 2010.  Did you post any specifics regarding that trellis.  The taller pieces look like 1 1/2" lumber.  Have you been satisfied with the "lateral stability"?  I have built several of the supports as designed by Larry Jenkins but would like something that would be easy to disassemble at seasons end.  Prior to experimenting with construction I was wondering if you have any up date or changes in that design and specifics about lumber and measurements.  I am thinking about pre-drilling holes and using bolts, washers and wingnuts to make take down easier.
Thanks
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 09:21:43 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, cushman350. This user is located in Tomato Hell, Wichita Falls, Texas Zone 7b. This was originally posted on December 9, 2010.

Disclaimer: This was originally posted by Newbie, Hiker. This was originally posted on December 9, 2010.

A question for PaulB regarding msg dated June 26, 2010.  Did you post any specifics regarding that trellis.  The taller pieces look like 1 1/2" lumber.  Have you been satisfied with the "lateral stability"?  I have built several of the supports as designed by Larry Jenkins but would like something that would be easy to disassemble at seasons end.  Prior to experimenting with construction I was wondering if you have any up date or changes in that design and specifics about lumber and measurements.  I am thinking about pre-drilling holes and using bolts, washers and wingnuts to make take down easier.
Thanks

Suggestion. Provides more trellis sq ft.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 09:24:36 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, Hiker. This was posted on December 10, 2010.

Now I do have a question.  Why did you use redwood for the 2x4 base pieces rather than something like pressure treated pine?  Looks like the length of the deck screws is 1", 1 5/8" and 3"...correct?  I was actually concerned about finding the mending plates but looked at HD today and found some for about $1.05.  Did you apply any type of protective waterproofing?


Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 09:30:55 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, PaulB. The user is located in Southeast New Mexico, zone 7. This was originally posted on December 11, 2010.

Pressure treated wood is treated with creosote and sometimes arsenic.  I prefer not to have anything as poisonous as arsenic, even in trace amounts, in my garden area.  I even hesitate to use pesticides.  Cedar and redwood are both naturally water resistant without further treatment.  I did try coating some of the pine boards, which were used in another trellis, for tomatos, with Thompsons Water Seal, but found it awkward to apply.  So the boards have been left untreated for now.

Yes, I included the ruler so people could see everyone could see the lengths I used.  Unfortunately, part of the mending plates were out of the frame, as there were a few other measurements written on it.

Here in the desert, the UV levels are much higher than that in some other places, which led to the net failure.

Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 09:36:10 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, gardendoc. This user is located in Ocean Springs, MS Zone 9a. This was originally posted on December 11, 2010.
Quote from PaulB on December 11, 2010.
Quote
Pressure treated wood is treated with creosote and sometimes arsenic.

Just to point out that CCA (the arsenic containing preservative) has been restricted since the early 2000s.  The replacement ACQ preservative is arsenic free. 

Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 09:39:48 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, PaulB. The user is located in Southeast New Mexico, zone 7. This was originally posted on December 12, 2010.

Thanks for that info, Gardendoc.  A good reason to be careful about using some kinds of recycled lumber.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 09:45:11 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, joy112854. This user is located in Zone 8B Crestview, Florida (close to Pensacola). This post was originally posted December 22, 2010.

Jester:  That one you have if you lengthen it a bit and then slant it, would be great for cucumbers.  You could teach them to climb up the slanted trellis by tying them to it and it would keep them off the ground.
joy
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 09:49:59 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Active Member, MotherDragon. This user is located in Spring, TX - Suburban Houston, TX. This post was originally posted on April 14, 2011.

My husband built a raised support for my EBs and used (8) 2 x 4s and plastic mesh netting from Lowes to make a trellis. It worked so well that this year he built another set of supports and ran the trellis full-length. The raised bed makes it easy for me to pick my feast and keeps the plants off the ground and farther away from pests.

Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:00:06 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, joy112854. This user is located in Zone 8B Crestview, Florida (close to Pensacola). This post was originally posted April 17, 2011.

Paul: Have you tried mason twine, it's pretty strong! I put my EB on podiums, then used stakes (2" x 2") and about 8 ft long, pounded into podiums that hold about 5 EBs across, and used 4 stakes each side of the podium, which I had drilled screws a few of them into the bottom of each stake, then used mason twine tied around all of the stakes for my maters. Worked real well last year, only last year I used regular garden twine which kept breaking, now this mason twine, it should hold!
joy
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:02:37 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, PaulB. The user is located in Southeast New Mexico, zone 7. This was originally posted on April 17, 2011.

Mason twine rots in the strong UV rays that we experience here in the desert. Even 1/4 inch nylon rope will rot to breaking point in a years exposure, as I found out to my surprise.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:03:54 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, joy112854. This user is located in Zone 8B Crestview, Florida (close to Pensacola). This post was originally posted April 19, 2011.

Paul:  EEks, I didnt know that!  Of course the mason twine is cheaper than garden twine which disappears in no time in FL weather.
joy
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:10:35 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, movrshakr. This user is located in Zone 10a- near Cape Canaveral. This was originally posted on June 6, 2011.

I use a single cattle panel supported vertically. I have not seen a problem with the metal burning the plants. It=is=a bit heavy, but works extremely well once installed. I do kind of wonder if you would need both sides paneled in your arrangement...maybe so.

My panel is essentially straight up above the plants (well, offset a few inches to the rear). I use stretchy garden tape or garden twist tie thingies to attach 1/2 to the wires of panel.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:13:27 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, cushman350. This user is located in Tomato Hell, Wichita Falls, Texas Zone 7b. This was originally posted on June 6, 2011.

seansmum,

I have seen the kind you mention (2"X4") used that completely surround an EB but have strategically removed single wires to create 4"X4" openings at various heights to facilitate reaching all places inside. Heavy duty wire cutters, dremel tool with cutting discs or the like make short work of it.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:15:06 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, joy112854. This user is located in Zone 8B Crestview, Florida (close to Pensacola). This post was originally posted June 6, 2011.

So:  anyone got an idea for a grape trellis?  Im going to be planting up 4 grape plants into 5 gallon self watering buckets and want a trellis that will be up against the buckets.
joy
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:22:15 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, seansmum. This user is located in Queensbury, NY. Zone 4-5. This was originally posted on June 12, 2011.

I got lucky and found something called Tomato Guard at http://www.wireclothman.com/shop.php?cPath=78. I had to buy more than I needed but the 4"x6" openings should be perfect. Its fairly light but sturdy and should last for years. It is also available on Amazon in single rolls. Their description says it is 4 long but each roll is actually 4X20. I hope this info is useful to someone.
Sue
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:23:36 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, joy112854. This user is located in Zone 8B Crestview, Florida (close to Pensacola). This post was originally posted June 12, 2011.

Ouch, $60?
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:26:15 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, movrshakr. This user is located in Zone 10a- near Cape Canaveral. This was originally posted on June 12, 2011.

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, seansmum. This user is located in Queensbury, NY. Zone 4-5. This was originally posted on June 12, 2011.

I got lucky and found something called Tomato Guard at http://www.wireclothman.com/shop.php?cPath=78. I had to buy more than I needed but the 4"x6" openings should be perfect. Its fairly light but sturdy and should last for years. It is also available on Amazon in single rolls. Their description says it is 4 long but each roll is actually 4X20. I hope this info is useful to someone.
Sue

That says
"48" x 20 "
"sold in bundle of 4"
So do you get 80 ft for $60? That would be a real bargain.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:34:09 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, seansmum. This user is located in Queensbury, NY. Zone 4-5. This was originally posted on June 12, 2011.

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, movrshakr. This user is located in Zone 10a- near Cape Canaveral. This was originally posted on June 12, 2011.

That says
"48" x 20 "
"sold in bundle of 4"
So do you get 80 ft for $60? That would be a real bargain.
movrshakr,
Yes, you get 80 feet for $60
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, joy112854. This user is located in Zone 8B Crestview, Florida (close to Pensacola). This post was originally posted June 12, 2011.

Ouch, $60?
Joy112854,
You can buy single tools on Amazon that are 4X20 for sixteen dollars and change.
Sue

Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:35:34 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, joy112854. This user is located in Zone 8B Crestview, Florida (close to Pensacola). This post was originally posted June 13, 2011.

So; does that work for 4 five gallon self watering buckets with grapes in them?  I want to plant grapes this fall in my self watering 5 gallon buckets; but, will need a trellis for them to climb on any suggestions here?
joy
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:36:47 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, seansmum. This user is located in Queensbury, NY. Zone 4-5. This was originally posted on June 13, 2011.

Joy112854,
I dont see any reason it shouldnt work, but I think for grapes you could just run a couple of pieces of wire between some posts about 2-3 feet apart. Try a web search on grape trellis.
Sue
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:39:20 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, joy112854. This user is located in Zone 8B Crestview, Florida (close to Pensacola). This post was originally posted June 14, 2011.

The posts and wire sounds pretty good to me.  I tried crook neck yellow squash for the first time this summer, and I like it, someone at the nursery suggested I try growing a cool weather squash, do you have any ideas on what kind, I was thinking the buttercrunch kind?  Can you grow zucchini in cool weather also, that is another veg I have never tried either.
joy
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:41:21 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, joy112854. This user is located in Zone 8B Crestview, Florida (close to Pensacola). This post was originally posted June 15, 2011.

cushman:  I dipped mine in egg, then cornmeal and fried it in extra virgin olive oil (that keeps my dr happy), and it tasted just like fried green maters.  Of which I have about 8 tomatoes the size of a softball and still green on the vines!  Now everyone wants me to try zucchini, and its too late to plant it for the Spring/Summer season; but was wondering if I could grow it as a cool weather veggie this fall/winter?  I made my eggplant dish yesterday, and will make a squash casserole this week when some of the other squash matures enough and am eating mater sandwiches daily!  Not to mention, little cherry mater snacks while I watch TV at night.  They have people growing squash as a cool weather veggie and I hear it does well here as a cool weather veggie, so I'm gonna plant a winter squash and would like to try a winter zucchini, if there is one?
joy
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:46:02 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, movrshakr. This user is located in Zone 10a- near Cape Canaveral. This was originally posted on June 12, 2011.
Quote from: joy112854 on June 15, 2011
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Will it do as good as a job?

Look to see if the active ingredient is the same and if the percentage is about the same.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:48:20 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, joy112854. This user is located in Zone 8B Crestview, Florida (close to Pensacola). This post was originally posted June 15, 2011.
Quote from: movrshakr on June 15, 2011
Quote
......Or tell me to go pound sand and I will slink away.

Are you trying to take some pressure off of me
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 10:51:23 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, PrestonTheGrower. This user is located in Tulsa, OK Zone 6b. This was originally posted on May 1, 2012.

Has anyone tried to design a trellis utilizing a single vertical string? If so how did that work out?
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:00:40 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, grb1. This user is located in Zone 5b Southeastern, Wisconsin. This was originally posted on May 1, 2012.

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, PrestonTheGrower. This user is located in Tulsa, OK Zone 6b. This was originally posted on May 1, 2012.

Has anyone tried to design a trellis utilizing a single vertical string? If so how did that work out?

I have changed some of my trellises from using netting to 5/8"X7 sturdy stakes. Ill be testing these for my pole beans this summer.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:02:15 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, grb1. This user is located in Zone 5b Southeastern, Wisconsin. This was originally posted on May 1, 2012.

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, PrestonTheGrower. This user is located in Tulsa, OK Zone 6b. This was originally posted on May 1, 2012.

Has anyone tried to design a trellis utilizing a single vertical string? If so how did that work out?


I have changed some of my trellises from using netting to 5/8"X7 sturdy stakes. Ill be testing these for my pole beans this summer.

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Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:06:41 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, grb1. This user is located in Zone 5b Southeastern, Wisconsin. This was originally posted on May 1, 2012.

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, PrestonTheGrower. This user is located in Tulsa, OK Zone 6b. This was originally posted on May 1, 2012.

Has anyone tried to design a trellis utilizing a single vertical string? If so how did that work out?

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Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:08:35 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, movrshakr. This user is located in Zone 10a- near Cape Canaveral. This was originally posted on May 1, 2012.

That looks like it should work well.  If you need any lateral tie points, you can just run some twine.

This also could be done fitting the sturdy stakes horizontal in holes in the vertical PVC.

I like this idea.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:12:27 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, cushman350. This user is located in Tomato Hell, Wichita Falls, TX Zone 7b Yeah right. This was originally posted on May 1, 2012. 

grb1,

Really innovative slide-in stakes. Well done.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:18:40 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, HoustonLisa47. This was originally posted on May 1, 2012.

Hi All,

My name is Lisa and I live in Houston, Texas. Im either in Zone 8 or 9, depending on who you talk to. I live in a townhouse and started gardening last year with a 2 EBs and now Im addicted. I now have 5 EBs, 5 City Pickers and a few DIY SIP buckets of different sizes and would get more, but Im running out of space. Between my veggies and my flowers, its become a jungle, but a very peaceful one!!

I thought Id show the trellis that I made for my beans and cucumbers growing in EBs. I am a stained glass mosaic artist as a hobby and I love color, so I thought Id make a decorative one and it seems to be working fine. Ive had to add to it, everything is growing like mad. So much so that you wont even be able to see it in a few weeks. Thatll change...it hasnt gotten to our normal hellish temps yet.

Here are a few pics showing the growth along the trellis....

Thanks for looking,

Lisa in Houston
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:20:10 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Newbie, HoustonLisa47. This was originally posted on May 1, 2012.

Hi All,

My name is Lisa and I live in Houston, Texas. Im either in Zone 8 or 9, depending on who you talk to. I live in a townhouse and started gardening last year with a 2 EBs and now Im addicted. I now have 5 EBs, 5 City Pickers and a few DIY SIP buckets of different sizes and would get more, but Im running out of space. Between my veggies and my flowers, its become a jungle, but a very peaceful one!!

I thought Id show the trellis that I made for my beans and cucumbers growing in EBs. I am a stained glass mosaic artist as a hobby and I love color, so I thought Id make a decorative one and it seems to be working fine. Ive had to add to it, everything is growing like mad. So much so that you wont even be able to see it in a few weeks. Thatll change...it hasnt gotten to our normal hellish temps yet.

Here are a few pics showing the growth along the trellis....

Thanks for looking,

Lisa in Houston

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Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:22:41 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, cushman350. This user is located in Tomato Hell, Wichita Falls, TX Zone 7b Yeah right. This was originally posted on May 1, 2012. 

The large concrete wire mesh is cheap and strong and handy.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:30:38 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, mjb8743. This user is located in Zone 7, South Jersey, Garden State. This was originally posted on May 13, 2012.

Some folks pound rebar into the soil and just slip the conduit over it. See alternate instructions.

Ok... for one 5 wide x 6 feet (or more) tall trellis you need:

(2) 1/2" x 10 ft lengths of EMT electrical conduit (metal) (3 pcs if using rebar)
(2) EMT inside corner fittings (photo)
(2) EMT straight fittings (photo) (not reqd if using rebar)
nylon netting, 5 wide cut to about 6 long
http://www.burpee.com/product/gardening+supplies/garden+growing/garden+trellis+netting++-+5%27+x+60%27.do?search=basic&keyword=trellis+netting&sortby=newArrivals&page=1
a tubing cutter or hack saw
screw driver

1-  Cut the both conduits in half so you have (4) 5 lengths... now cut one piece in half to give you (2) 2 1/2 pieces. I got the conduit and fittings at Lowes, but Home Depot or other electrical supply will carry them. If youre real nice, they might even cut the 10 conduits to 5 so they fit in your car.   Wink

2-  Weave a 5 top section through the top of the netting and attach the 2 corner fittings.

3-  Take a 2 1/2 piece and weave it up the side of the netting, starting at the bottom of the net. Holding onto the netting so it doesnt slip off, attach the short tube to the corner fitting. Push the netting up to keep it from sliding off. Do the same thing to the other side with the other short piece of tubing.

4-  Hammer flat one end of the 2 remaining 5 pieces ( it will help it sink into the earth easier).

5-  Put 2 Earthboxes end-to end. Hammer one 5 tube into the ground a inch from the end of the EB. Measure 5 feet away, and pound the other piece into the ground. I use a piece of 2x4 to hammer on so I wont mutilate the end of the tubing. I also have soft soil, so I can go quite deep (18" or so). If you cant go that deep, you may want to cut some off the tubes to shorten them or else youll have a trellis thats way too high.

6-  Assemble the top of the trellis (with the netting still pushed up) to the legs using the straight connectors. Push the netting down, and voila, youre done!

ALTERNATE INSTRUCTIONS

1- Instead of the 2 straight fittings, buy 2 pcs rebar, either 3/8" or 1/2", 3 ft long. Make sure it fits inside the conduit.

2- Instead of 3 pcs of 5 ft lg conduit, for the sides you will need 2 pcs 7 ft lg (or whatever height you want your trellis)

3- pound the rebar into the ground as deep as you can for it to be secure, 5 ft apart centered on the 2 Earthbox ends.

4- Weave the netting sides onto the two long conduits, then attach the sides to the corner fittings on the top piece. Slip the whole thing over the rebar.

Hope this helps
Mickie
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:34:19 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Jr. Member, BridgetC. This user is located in Kalamta, Greece Zone 10 or 11. This was originally posted May 17, 2012.

A question for those who've built supports, cages, trellises based around PVC pipes:
What is the outer diameter, and wall thickness of the pipes you use?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:35:44 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, grb1. This user is located in Zone 5b Southeastern, Wisconsin. This was originally posted on May 17, 2012.

The PVC pipes I use are 1"(inside diameter) SCH40 or Schedule 40. Wall thickness is 1/8" thick.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:37:28 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, cushman350. This user is located in Tomato Hell, Wichita Falls, TX Zone 7b Yeah right. This was originally posted on May 17, 2012. 

To get the longest life possible from pvc exposed to sunlight and the elements, it needs to be painted with exterior paint for plastic. Plumbers are required to do this for exposed pipe when subject to inspection.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:40:43 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, baileyj. This user is located in Zone 7a------Annapolis, Maryland. This user originally posted this on May 17, 2012.

Is there special paint for PVC ?
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:41:49 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, cushman350. This user is located in Tomato Hell, Wichita Falls, TX Zone 7b Yeah right. This was originally posted on May 17, 2012. 

Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, baileyj. This user is located in Zone 7a------Annapolis, Maryland. This user originally posted this on May 17, 2012.

Is there special paint for PVC ?

It should be on the label if it is exterior grade and suitable for plastic. I know there are special paints for plastic door panels in the automotive application. Check for UV protection too.

http://www.pvcworkshop.com/painting.htm
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:47:47 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Active Member, ladydub. This user is located in Virginia Beach, Virginia (Zone 8a). This was originally posted on June 23, 2012.

Heres my take on the A-frame trellis design. This was a joint project between my dad and I. I live in a condo so all my gardening happens at his house. He decided to secure the frame to the ground using auger stakes instead of building a base. Its mainly made out of 3/4"x3" and 3/4"x4" cedar, so the final product is lightweight but still very sturdy. The base is significantly wider than the original design floating around (about 29"), so hopefully that will work out OK. We used 170lb. polished hemp twine and (many) eyelets to create the netting. Now hopefully, Ill start seeing lots of tomatoes!! This is my first year growing with earth boxes. These boxes use the organic fertilizer and the only thing Ive added so far is a little Maxicrop and homemade compost tea (around the base of the plant - not in the water). He also sprays the yard with garlic juice/neem oil every few weeks to keep the mosquitoes down..so hopefully that helps keep the pests away and fungus to a minimum.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:49:08 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Active Member, ladydub. This user is located in Virginia Beach, Virginia (Zone 8a). This was originally posted on June 23, 2012.


Heres my take on the A-frame trellis design. This was a joint project between my dad and I. I live in a condo so all my gardening happens at his house. He decided to secure the frame to the ground using auger stakes instead of building a base. Its mainly made out of 3/4"x3" and 3/4"x4" cedar, so the final product is lightweight but still very sturdy. The base is significantly wider than the original design floating around (about 29"), so hopefully that will work out OK. We used 170lb. polished hemp twine and (many) eyelets to create the netting. Now hopefully, Ill start seeing lots of tomatoes!! This is my first year growing with earth boxes. These boxes use the organic fertilizer and the only thing Ive added so far is a little Maxicrop and homemade compost tea (around the base of the plant - not in the water). He also sprays the yard with garlic juice/neem oil every few weeks to keep the mosquitoes down..so hopefully that helps keep the pests away and fungus to a minimum.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:53:00 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, PaulB. This user is located in Southeast New Mexico Zone 7. This was originally posted on June 24, 2012.

Nice design, although I would replace the guy lines with wire or cable, not twine.  Hemp rots over time.  Otherwise, its a great and graceful design.
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:55:33 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Full Member, hritter007. This user is located in Cary, NC Zone 7b. This was originally posted on June 24, 2012.

Very Nice!
Title: Re: Trellis design gallery
Post by: EarthBoxAdmin on June 01, 2017, 11:58:04 am
Disclaimer: This post was originally posted by Hero Member, butterflygirl67. This user is located in Zone 8a - DFW Metroplex. This was originally posted on June 25, 2012.

Absolutely breathtaking setup overall.  The trellises are very graceful and seem perfect for your setting.