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anndelise
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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2009, 03:04:55 PM »

I am such the WIMP!!!!!

I picked up my worms today.  They were in a nice clean white non-see-thru container with holes punched in the lid.  Even the cats didn't know there was anything special about the container as it sat on the counter waiting for me to grab a quick bite to eat first.

I put on a pair of kitchen gloves (the throw away kind).  I pulled out the bin, lifted the lid.  Everything is in it's place all ready for the worms.

I open the worm container, and see nothing but compost.  I'm thinking, ok, I can handle this.

I start spreading the container contents around on the bin.  At first, nothing but compost comes out.  Part of me wondered if I had gotten any worms at all!!.  Another part thinking, "hey, that's ok, a small handful of worms will be easier for me to handle than the pound I bought."

And then a large lump comes out of the container.

And it's moving.

And it's RED!!!  Like a deep pink/purplish red.

And it's MOVING!!!!

And there's so many teeny tiny ones!!

And I think I'm going to hyperventilate!!

There were about 5 small worms still on the container.  I tried knocking them out, but that didn't work.  I was going to have to actually stick my hand in and swipe them up.  I couldn't do it.  Even with gloves on I couldn't do it!!!

After a few more attempts to get them out, I took the container outside and put it over one of my planters.  So that they can slide down the container wall and into the potting mix that's there.  I don't know if they'll survive in it, but I just couldn't push myself to get them out.  I feel guilty, but they might wind up as casualties.   Cry

I covered the worms in the bin like the instructions said to, and then put the lid on and stuck the bin under the kitchen light.  I'm told I should keep the bin under the light for about 3-4 days until the worms get settled into their new home.

The cats now KNOW there's something there, but they don't know what.  I just hope they don't decide to lay down on top of the bin.  I should probably get something to place on top of it to deter the cats from  even thinking about laying on it.

So, my first intro to the worms didn't go so well.  Didn't go bad, but didn't go well.  I've got about 4-6 days before I have to add food in there.  Hopefully by then I can overcome some of the squeamishness.

Ann
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2009, 03:10:29 PM »

anndelise,

Your phobia makes me all giggly inside. Grin
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2009, 03:31:11 PM »

Maybe you should take up fishing....and old boyfriend of mine used to have to bait my hook for me, it was the deal..if he wanted me to fish.....he would have to bait my hook. Then, I got hooked on fishing big time, and I couldn't wait for him to bait my hook. I soon got over my worm squeamishness...now I handle leeches, maggots, grubs and wax worms....it's almost pleasurable when I get to handle a good old earthworm. I am still fishing,  but the boyfriend has moved on.
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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2009, 04:58:15 PM »

Maybe you should take up fishing....and old boyfriend of mine used to have to bait my hook for me, it was the deal..if he wanted me to fish.....he would have to bait my hook. Then, I got hooked on fishing big time, and I couldn't wait for him to bait my hook. I soon got over my worm squeamishness...now I handle leeches, maggots, grubs and wax worms....it's almost pleasurable when I get to handle a good old earthworm. I am still fishing,  but the boyfriend has moved on.

Now why can't I find a girl like you in Florida Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2009, 09:02:43 AM »

Tag   As it has been said many times.....I am one of a kind! But keep looking...there has to be women with all of my good attributes....LOL.
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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2009, 09:20:35 AM »

I can see the personal ad now - Wanted SWF Must be into Earthbox gardening and fishing. Dirty fingernails a must. Must enjoy squishy things like maggots and worms. Must know the difference between potting mix and potting soil. Send pictures of Earthboxes to.... Grin Wink

<---- maybe if I stop wearing this red bow-tie I'd have better luck Shocked Tongue
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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2009, 11:05:55 AM »

Thanks for the laugh! I have shared this with EB office mates and we are all chuckling.
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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2009, 08:55:06 AM »

Andalise, the good news is that you won't have to actually touch them again for a very long time.  Just spend a little time each week 'watching' them be worms and you will eventually desensitize yourself to the idea of touching these helpful little critters.  You may even be ready when you have to rescue one from the side of the bin.  Of course I was the kid who raised planaria, ( a kind of flatworm), for fun and had to bait hooks for my husband as well.   Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2009, 10:12:17 AM »

We've been checking on them at least once a day.  Mostly to try to desensitize myself to just seeing them.  I have to say though that I think my biggest problem is how MANY there are.  It's overwhelming.

Watching just one or two for a while, (like a couple of the ones that went into the planter) is just fine.  When it's only one or two I find them kinda fascinating.  If it was only one or two that I was keeping an eye on, I'm pretty sure I could eventually get the nerve to hold it.

The issue seems to come with the unfamiliarity AND the mass.
I can't connect to a mass, but I CAN connect to an individual.
So I'm currently trying to figure out what my options are on pulling out just a few of them and having them in some kind of container that I can view them regularly and eventually interact with them.

Perhaps by connecting with a couple of individuals, the mass won't seem so...icky.

Tonight or tomorrow morning I'll be feeding them.
I'm not sure how I'm going to convince myself to stick my hand in there to bury the food and all.
But this is something I've really gotta push past.

If I can learn to handle the worms, then maybe when the insects come for the plants I'll be a little less squeamish and jumpy, lol.
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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2009, 01:06:27 PM »

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So I'm currently trying to figure out what my options are on pulling out just a few of them and having them in some kind of container that I can view them regularly and eventually interact with them.

Perhaps by connecting with a couple of individuals, the mass won't seem so...icky.


anndelise connecting


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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2009, 03:50:28 PM »

Cushman, thanks for the giggle.  ;>

Anndelise, I use a garden claw to move stuff out of the way for the new food.  Be sure to cover it with new bedding.  If all they have is rotting food and their poop (castings) it can get pretty toxic for the little critters, and slimy besides. 

You could make something like an ant farm only with worms and you'd get to see every step of their process.  I can't believe there's not something like that on the market already - so there ya go - a new marketing venture.  ;>

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anndelise
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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2009, 09:01:01 PM »

cushman, that was too funny.  My daughter gave me a funny luck because I had suddenly burst out laughing.   Cheesy

Deb, omgosh I can't believe I forgot about the garden claw idea.  I think I was so caught up on the image of trying to get my hands in there that I forgot there was an alternative.  Yay!!  Now I don't feel so freaked out.

I was considering getting one of those ant farm things, but I was a bit concerned due to them not liking light.  Though, I guess if it was covered most the time and if I peak in at night with a red light instead of a white/yellow/other color light, then it should be ok for them.  I think I'll look more into that this summer.

After that maybe I can work on teaching the 3-4 worms how to "Come" and "Beg".   Wink



(seriously Deb, thanks for that garden claw reminder!!!)
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« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2009, 02:51:09 PM »

Cushman: this is too funny, I missed this somehow..must of been my couple of days of jury duty and what not. 
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anndelise
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« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2009, 12:48:32 PM »

Update:
I'm still a wimp.
I've been feeding the worms about once a week..probably closer to once every 4-5 days, as soon as we have enough food to make it worth disturbing the box and bedding to put the food in.  As we've..I've...fed them, i use my garden claw to pull things aside, place the food in there, and then cover it back up.  I never really checked on the worms until the past week.  I was convinced I was killing them off and I just didn't want to know.

So this time, when I went to feed them, I made sure to do some poking around, stir things up, make sure things were moist enough and that there was air in there.

In some spots there were hardly any worms.  Not much noticeable food either.
In other spots....yeah..
In other spots it was like that first day when that big blob popped out of the container.
In these spots there's a lot of moving mass, sometimes not even any brown stuff around, just worms and some food piece, all huddled together.
Each time I popped open one of those spots my daughter and I would shriek.  Not out of fear, just..the suddenness of the surprise, lol.

There were some very thick worms, and some long ones.  So those were obviously growing well.
There were also some very tiny almost see-thru ones, so obviously some of them are reproducing.
There seemed to be more huddled groups hanging around the banana peels.
The coffee grounds seems to contain thicker and longer worms.
And so far...noone's tried to escape...that we've seen.

I can only watch for so long before all the movement gets to me.
But I'm not totally freaking out....however I still refuse to put my gloved hand in there, lol.
I've got a plastic container with a hole punched lid set aside for the intent of pulling out a couple of worms and place in there so that I can observe them without all the mass.  I just haven't gotten around to actually pulling a worm out.

I never got around to taking a picture of their location.
Suffice to say that they get enough oxygen moving through there, but are out of the way, no cats have laid on the lid that we know of.  (Though they are interested when we take off the lid.  They haven't acted like they've actually noticed a moving worm yet, which is a little weird as two of them are very curious and very playful.  They just seem to sniff and then leave or try to figure out why the humans are so interested in this box.)

The box is so out of the way that we barely remember they are there.
No neighbor visiting would even notice the box either.

I haven't pulled out any compost.  I'm not in any hurry.
In fact, This last time was the first time I've added a second layer to the box.  I haven't even added food to it yet.
So far we haven't had any fly problems.  But then the weather was kind of cool.  It's warming up now, so we'll have to see how the fly thing goes.  Haven't seen a one yet, though (knock on wood).
No ant problems either, and ants is something we always see in this house.

There's not much smell.  I mean, when i take off the lid and dig around in there then I might get a whiff of something that smells kind of sweet, pungent??  But when it's covered up, we don't notice anything at all.

One week we were concerned because we barely had any food for them (that's the week they got some coffee grounds from work).  But now I'm not too worried if I feed them only once a week.  Some weeks there seems to be more food than others.  But from what I saw this past week, there's still plenty to go around without overwhelming them.  Especially if they're growing thick and breeding.

Um, ok, so that's my update.  Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2009, 01:03:49 PM »

I have a bin also and have been at it for a couple of months.
How much coffee grounds do you put it?  I am worried about it being too acidic if I add too much.
I have basically sticking to fruit and veggie peels, a few leaves and trimmings from the garden and a few pulverized egg shells.  So far, so good.
I haven't disturbed them for a week but I need to add some food tonight so I will do what you did and see how they are doing.
Do you ever notice the bin seems to get real moist, almost too moist? 
Thanks and good luck!
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